How strong is Bra?

of course mr. satan would beat her. he's the champ after all.


super namek not usefull? he's probaly stronger then gohan and bra.
buuhan would slaughter her, this zen buu could beat her with his pinky finger...unless he keeps suffering from plot induced stupidity.

bawww no one looked at my bra pun joke.

Rage wrote:bawww no one looked at my bra pun joke.

You know the drill! You leave a message and everyone ignores it! Wait a sec.....

haha me and leon. leon's fanfic has bra as insanely strong.

super namek

his name is just namek. a translator confirmed it. he calls himself namek since he represents his people.

he's probaly stronger then gohan and bra.

your right about the first comparison. but we still dont know. we dont know which buu the namek fought or how long it took. we know bra at least = ssj vegetto and i dont think super namek could beat even base vegetto.

You seem to be one of the only ones that reconise how strong Bra actualy is.

course. im the number 1 fanboy. and a fucking epic one at that

Do you think Bra would be able to beat Buuhan or Buutenks?

yes. vegetto got stronger since he fought buuhan and bra can apparently at least train with ssj vegetto at this tournament.

i think zen buu has a big advantage over vegetto and bra atm. just those three arent enough. we will have to wait and see though. i think broly will be sent back before they start to fight.

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:we know bra at least = ssj vegetto and i dont think super namek could beat even base vegetto.

i think broly will be sent back before they start to fight.

No, even with that comparison, we don't know. For all we know, SSJ Vegetto could have been using 25% of his power while training with Bra. So yeah, that's not saying much. And actually, don't see why Namek wouldn't be able to handle base Vegetto. I'm pretty sure he'd be training all his like as well to get ready for the next threat in case there is one.

Yeah, and hopefully, that will get rid of Broly forever. But by the looks of it, we may need a U20 Special, and Broly could somehow return. :\

Base Vegeto is 50x weaker than SSj Vegeto. I think SSj Vegeto > SSj3 Goku > SSj1 Goku > Base Vegeto.

While I give quite a bit of power to Bra, I in no way think

Base Vegeto > SSj anything Goku.

My personal placement of bra would be something like:

Minimum Bra (my minimum guess): SSj2 Bra >= SSj3 Goku
Maximum Bra (My max Guess): SSj Bra >= SSj3 Goku

And I'd like to think she falls somewhere between those two extremes. Something like:

SSj2 Bra (Very slightly)> SSj Vegeto (20%ish)> SSj3 Goku > SSj Bra

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:

Do you think Bra would be able to beat Buuhan or Buutenks?

yes. vegetto got stronger since he fought buuhan and bra can apparently at least train with ssj vegetto at this tournament.

i think zen buu has a big advantage over vegetto and bra atm. just those three arent enough. we will have to wait and see though. i think broly will be sent back before they start to fight.

you do realise that vegetto would hold back a great amount. if he used his full power as a ssj he could seriously hurt her. like leon said he probaly only used about 20% of his power against her.

as for strong in the tournament at the moment

ssj3 vegetto > Broly > zen buu > ssj2 vegetto > super namek/ssj1 vegetto > others

as long as broly is trapped inside the energy ball, his power won't rise (as it seems the balls is trying to crush him, his invunerability constantly blocks this.)

zen buu although weaker then broly at the moment, is far more dangerous because of all the powers and abilities he has.

No, I actually think Bra might be 5% stronger than SSj Vegeto as SSj2. He just doesn't have to transform to thrash her seeing as how he's, well, Vegeto and the power wouldn't be enough.

I said SSj Vegeto 20% stronger than SSj3 Goku.

Leon wrote:No, I actually think Bra might be 5% stronger than SSj Vegeto as SSj2. He just doesn't have to transform to thrash her seeing as how he's, well, Vegeto and the power wouldn't be enough.

I said SSj Vegeto 20% stronger than SSj3 Goku.

You don't think Vegetto's strength increases at a similar rate to Goku's?

Actually, no. *shrugs* I could, entirely, be wrong, but I think that Goku and Vegeta's rivalry will cause them to push themselves harder than Vegeto alone.

U16 has been peaceful since Buu. That means Vegeto didn't even have a -sparing- partner until Bra came along, and even at that she probably wasn't even able to push his SSj until within the last year.

No sparing partner anywhere near his level, no challenges, no hope for a good fight or obsticals to overcome..

Conflict breeds growth. I think Vegeto has grown, no doubt, I just think with the lack of that conflict it would be slower than Goku or Vegeta. So he's only, like, 15-20x stronger than them instead of 30-40x. ^_^

So I'm thinking at this point right now that Bra doesn't have SSJ2.

When she and Gohan go to help Vegetto against Zen Buu, she only powers up to SSJ1.

We can all safely assume that in terms of power, Zen Buu >> SSJ Bra. This raises the question of why didn't Bra then power up to full (SSJ2) if she knew that she may have to fight Zen Buu?

Maybe she didn't have time for SSJ2, but, then again, she did have time to go SSJ1 and focus her power for IT.

So, then maybe, like Pan, she doesn't have the ability to go SSJ2 yet.

Well. If Bra is giving Vegeto a good run for his money in normal SSj, Salagir is giving her twice as much credit as even I am. ^_^

she hasnt gone beyond ssj while fighting zen buu. either shes really cocky and hasnt revealed ssj2 until she really needs to, or she cant go beyond ssj. then again the fights just started. so we'll see on friday.

zen buu should have no trouble defeating gohan (who already got his ass kicked by gotenksbuu) and bra.
but it could be that he fears using too much power would cause the vargas to notice.

thats only because of piccolo being absorbed and gotenks buu playing mind games. gohan is alot more serious and focused now.

No. Per cannon, Gohan got the living hell kicked out of him, no chance what so ever.

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:thats only because of piccolo being absorbed and gotenks buu playing mind games. gohan is alot more serious and focused now.

...No. Gohan got the living crap beaten out of him. Gohan being "more serious" now won't change a thing. He's at the same exact power level he was back then, and will be easily as decimated, even more so, if Zen Buu goes full power.

I assume that even though their far away (and technicly constantly moving) zen buu won't show his full power because perhaps the varga's machines could detect it. and they would all be send back to their own universe

although zen buu could very will cross dimensions with all the powers he has. or he just has to start screaming

That would be funny. They stall until Brolly gets sent back, and Buu just laughs before walking to his universe, eating him, and coming back.

if buu can do that. then there ain't nothing the vargas can do to stop him.


i can imagine zen buu, hopping from universe to universe. laying waste to them all(if he does absorn broly)

I highly doubt Zen Buu would be able to cross universes, just dimensions. We'll see though, whether Zen Buu is able to follow Broly, or is Broly gets pissed and screams "Kakarott" ala Buuhan (anime only?) and is able to come back to the tournament universe.

i dont think zen buu will care. he can trash vegetto anyway. especially weakened vegetto. unless bra powers up/gives bean to her dad, they are going to die in the emptiness of space. our heroes are in a real pickle, unless zen buu isnt as strong as we think and was just boasting about being able to beat vegetto.

Zen buu should be strong
he has absorbd all the z-fighters and anyone with some strenght or special power.


i assume he equal or alittle stronger then ssj2 vegetto.
absorbing broly would put him far beyond anything ssj3 vegetto can do.

there could be 1 downside of absorbing broly, broly's lss grows out of control and he explodes. thus leaving buu without the lssj power again.

hmm good point. but theres the possibility the vargas fix the button and zen buu cannot bust through universes. that seems like whats going to happen. or bra/vegetto let themselves be absorbed and bust broly out, as well as the other z fighters.

buu knows that absorbing vegetto will cause him problems. as that already happend in his own universe.
absorbing bra seems more likely, because well she isn't part of his collection yet.