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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Sun Jul 11, 2010 7:55 am

http://fayeuh.deviantart.com/art/DBM-U8-poster-170143312?q=+sort%3Atime+DBM&qo=3

I love this poster/universe. especially how frieza is flipping off cooler in the poster Laughing
though we won't get a special for a while. but like the poster implies, it would be awesome if the special explored the cold family backstory as salagir sees it.
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Post  Syrias Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:17 am

cool pic, but i would have liked small horns on freeza Very Happy, also, no clothes on cooler, since he doesnt need them at all. still a cool pic, though.
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Post  Docter KillJoy Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:25 am

not bad. the horns are missing though.

and colds legs look too short for his body.

perhaps when broly's story is done, more focus will be put on the other dimensions
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Post  SSJ Your Nick Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:08 pm

It's cool, but Freeza should be in his final form.

He created his other forms to supress his power as he got older. At that point he probably wouldn't need it. Or if he did so would Cooler at that point.

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Post  U16_Bra Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:33 am

Just testing to see if this works farao
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:12 am

-_- so i'm not the only bra fanboy? cheap copy of yours truly...

im kidding Very Happy welcome, fellow fanboy (if your name is anything to go by).
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Post  VegetaSSJ3 Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:15 am

Bra fanboy unites! lol!
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:18 am

Damn Straight Cool
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Post  U16_Bra Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:52 am

Heh, it's nice to have so many fanboys!

I'm the real Bra Wink

Or at least, I think I look the most like her Razz
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Post  Docter KillJoy Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:47 pm

so your a girl? scratch


welcome to the forum

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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:10 pm

if your bra then i'm your brother from the future! Smile
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Post  Docter KillJoy Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:28 pm

does that make me broly ? :p
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:48 pm

guess so lol! better start practising your "kakarot"s
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Post  Docter KillJoy Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:50 am

hmmm if we have to base it on db:m then true
if it's movie broly. i'm the movie 8 version Razz the one that can talk normal

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Post  Bartholomew Wed Jul 14, 2010 4:52 am

Alright Laughing
That makes me Bart Simpson
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Post  Mrperson0 Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:08 pm

U_16 Bra, I'm pretty sure you have the wrong pic. That is U18 Bra, not U16.

And did you know U16 Bra was a cop out way for Salagir so he wouldn't have to make an original character? XD
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Post  Leon Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:35 pm

If DBM had been popular before 16 bra was shown, a fan-art contest to design Vegeto's daughter probably would have been a good way to solve that.
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Post  Mrperson0 Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:36 pm

Indeed. Would have been interesting if that happened.
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Post  Pikuhan vs Piccolo Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:46 am

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:It would be awesome if the special explored the cold family backstory as salagir sees it.
yes it would.

I think Cooler wouldn't need to create the lesser forms as his power grew because he could/should be able to control it. However each time he grows, Freeza's power in final form still out classes it and can't be controlled by King Cold's favorite son. For this reason Freeza develops the lesser transformations like his father has before him. Perhaps Freeza wasn't his father's favorite until he needed his smallest transformation.

note: pic wise I'ld like to see a little cooler mocking a little 3rd form Freeza in the background and a cooler that is all beat up in the foreground with his brother in final form standing atop him drunken with his own power.

bounce can't wait to see how saligir does the Sayajin's last stand [fall of a SSJ1 Goku]
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Post  Docter KillJoy Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:03 am

5th form cooler would have destroyed freeza

4th form cooler, he seemed about equal to final form freeza 50%
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Post  Leon Thu Jul 15, 2010 3:23 am

Depends on how long it takes place after Frieza.

The movie looks like:

SSj Goku >(80%ish?) Coola 5th > Coola 4th >(88% ish?)Goku base.

My calcs put Goku at about 4mil by that point, so. (1=1 million)

Goku: 4
Goku(x20): 80
Coola(4th): 91
Frieza(4th): 120
Coola(5th): 160
SSj Goku: 200

A year later looks more like

Goku: 5.36
Goku(x20): 107.2
Coola(4th): 122
Coola(5th): 214
SSj Goku: 268

I'd place it at about 6 months myself. Maybe a little earlier.

Buuut. DBM uses a slower growth rate than I think DBZ does, and since this is about DBM these are more accurate to what happened in Salagirs universes (unless he re-writes that movie also) so the DBM numbers more work out to:

Goku: 3.22
Goku(x20): 64.4
Coola(4th): 73.2
Frieza(4th): 120
Coola(5th): 128.8
SSj Goku: 161

A year later looks more like

Goku: 3.51
Goku(x20): 70.2
Coola(4th): 79.8
Coola(5th): 140.4
SSj Goku: 175.5

So in DBM, I'd be more inclined to go with 1 year after.
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Post  Docter KillJoy Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:16 am

i know he isn't in db:m. but how much stronger leon do you think cooler became as metal cooler.

i always wonderd why he didn't use his stronger 5th form as a base for the metal coolers.
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Post  Leon Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:45 am

I haven't actually seen that movie. ^_^. I'll check it out when I get a chance. Vegeta / Goku are around their Android saga levels aren't they?
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:51 am

imo the big change in u8 was king cold coming to namek. that way they could double team ssj goku. they seem to already know what a super saiyan is (trunks vs cooler. cooler figured it out). cooler did seem kind of weak in his fourth form but then he never went 100%. he had fifth form instead.

bra was indeed just salagir admitting bra shouldnt look the same as the U18 bra but does for simplicity's sake
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Post  Docter KillJoy Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:51 am

Leon wrote:I haven't actually seen that movie. ^_^. I'll check it out when I get a chance. Vegeta / Goku are around their Android saga levels aren't they?

not sure, time line in both cooler movies is abit fucked up.

metal cooler (the 1st one) was already superior then ssj goku. after some damage it repaired and upgraded itself. it then held off both ssj goku and ssj vegeta.
until they used all their power in 1 strong double team attack to destroy him.

then an intire army of even stronger metal coolers arived.


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