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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:03 am

then why havent they done anything? wheres this main character status? starting out from someones point of view doesnt mean they are the main people driving the story along.
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Post  Hyp3rB14d3 Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:48 am

No, but up until U16 decided to hijack the story back in chapter 9, the story was consistently done from the point of view of U18. U16 didn't really have any presence in the story up until chapter 3 (aside from the intro). Plus, Salagir stated that the fighters of U18 were the main characters. Also, it's a tournament where nobody is supposed to fight outside of their matches. That pretty much limited everyone's actions until the Broly fiasco and the subsequent Zen Buu incident.
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:53 am

exactly. from the point of view. they dont have to be the main heroes for the story to be told from their view. eg. star wars. told from the view of the robots. but luke and leia and han are the heroes. u18 - c3p0 and r2d2. U16 - luke, leia, han, chewie. get my drift?

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Post  Mrperson0 Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:00 am

Thing is, Salagir said they're the main characters. The manga started out (not the preview) with the main universe we all now, U18. If U16 were the main characters, we would've seen their universe instead.

I'm not worried, U18 will get their screentime. Salagir even said even though he gave Goku and Vegeta the limited power growth, they still have techniques and whatnot that will help them get up to have enough power to fight the main villain, not including the Fusion Dance and Potarras.
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:03 am

wrong. like i just pointed out, main character doesnt mean they defeat the villains. just that the story is told from their point of view.
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Post  Hyp3rB14d3 Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:10 am

Name 5 shounen manga where the heroes aren't the ones that beat the villains.
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:19 am

i didnt say U18 were the heroes or the ones who beat the villain. i said they are the main characters.
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Post  Hyp3rB14d3 Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:06 am

Okay. Name 10 shounen manga where the main characters aren't the ones that beat the villain.
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:07 am

i dont read shonen manga. and why should DBM conform to shonen cliches anyway? we all expect U18 goku to save the day.
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Post  Hyp3rB14d3 Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:12 am

Because Dragon Ball Z was a shounen manga. Would you be satisfied if Dragon Ball Multiverse suddenly turned into a romantic comedy between Kat and Kakarotto? Or if it abruptly ended with Zen Buu absorbing Broly and killing everyone? Or if it suddenly switched to the political corruption within the Vargas that lead to this tournament being created for sinister means?

Actually, you not having read Dragon Ball Z explains ...well, not everything, but some of the stuff you say and do.
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:18 am

i didnt say DBM wasnt a shonen manga. can you read? i said it doesnt have to fall for typical shonen cliches.
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Post  Hyp3rB14d3 Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:30 am

No, you didn't say that Dragon Ball Z wasn't a shounen manga. You merely implied that you either didn't know what a shounen manga was or didn't know that Dragon Ball Z was a shounen manga.
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Post  Docter KillJoy Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:07 am

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:i dont read shonen manga. and why should DBM conform to shonen cliches anyway? we all expect U18 goku to save the day.


seriously, you make claims about stuff, but don't use proof. and then you wonder why find you a (failure of a) troll.


like the others pointed out, u18 is where it started it. but not suddenly u16 hijacks the plot because salagir wants to make them look THE BEST EVUR.


of course now you will dodge my statement, and make another dumb comment.
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:43 am

What the hell kind of proof would i need to back up an OPINION? (that U18 goku will save the day as usual)? none. and of course you just looooveee to point out every little fallacy in my comments cos your a hater.
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Post  Hyp3rB14d3 Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:26 am

Hypocritical troll is a hypocrite.
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Post  Docter KillJoy Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:48 am

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:What the hell kind of proof would i need to back up an OPINION? (that U18 goku will save the day as usual)? none. and of course you just looooveee to point out every little fallacy in my comments cos your a hater.

oh noes someone doesn't agree with my opinion. he must be a hater


if you stopped trying to ram your opinions down everyone's throat, people would find you less annoying. because as soon as someone disagree's with you. you trow a hissyfit.

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Post  Mrperson0 Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:33 am

"rofl bra owns. best character in dbm."

See how you're forcing your opinion on others? Does it hurt to add "in my opinion", because you know mostly everyone does not agree. You were the same in showing how much you hated Cyborg Yamcha.
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Post  Stick Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:57 am

Mrperson0 wrote:"rofl bra owns. best character in dbm."

See how you're forcing your opinion on others? Does it hurt to add "in my opinion", because you know mostly everyone does not agree. You were the same in showing how much you hated Cyborg Yamcha.

well said....
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:54 am

oh noes someone doesn't agree with my opinion. he must be a hater
you've been picking every single thing i said apart ever since i started commenting on dbm. you just cant leave my opinion alone so why should i leave yours alone? and yes you didnt have to keep arguing with me about yamcha. hence why i kept trying to explain to you my reasons. not my fault you were forcing your opinion right back at me. your the same showing your hate for bra and love for yamcha as i am the opposite. so dont talk to me about hypocritical.
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Post  Docter KillJoy Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:53 pm

wait wut? i barely commented about yamcha in general. you must be confusing me with someone else.

also the difference between you and me is. i don't post huge walls of text to respond to every single poster just so you can force your opinion down their throats.

i make 1 post stating my opinion, any else i make is just to respond to people.

you on the other hand make multiple walls of texts posts where you ram your opinion down everyone's throat, and when people talk back you trow a hissy fit and try to hide behind salagir because he's showering u16 with attention at the moment.
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Post  Hyp3rB14d3 Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:26 pm

I think he views the rest of us as a collective hive mind.
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Post  Ussj Future Trunks Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:36 am

dr killjoy:
bitching and whining
snore..wait what? oh thats right. im tired of this. bye.
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Post  Docter KillJoy Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:59 pm

sad just sad that you are too pathetic to try and better yourself.

don't be suprised when you fail in real life also with that attitude, because remember mommy and daddy can't keep bailing you out forever.
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Post  Hyp3rB14d3 Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:09 pm

Okay, this is starting to get really, really stupid. Why don't we call a temporary truce and focus on the U16 special?
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Post  Mrperson0 Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:12 pm

Glad that argument is over with.

So far, I find the special meh. I mean, why would Vegetto have to be under the Kaioshins? Sure, they gave him the Potaras, but he was the one who kicked ass, and would have done so anyway. And the way everyone in U16 is acting, is seems that they take what he does with a grain of salt. None of them look like they care about being an "enforcer", especially Vegetto.
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