How do they compare?

How do the Multiverse fighters compare to canon/gt/movie characters in battle? hypothetical.

for example.

U16 Bra vs Janemba.

Z Super Vegito vs GT Majuub

DBM Vegetto vs SSJ4 Goku

Zen Buu vs Baby Vegeta

Kakarot vs Android Saga SSJ Goku

feel free to think up your own matchups.

Ussj Future Trunks wrote:How do the Multiverse fighters compare to canon/gt/movie characters in battle? hypothetical.

for example.

U16 Bra vs Janemba. - bra, she trains with ssj vegetto. janemba was around gotenksbuu level of power. so he loses.

Z Super Vegito vs GT Majuub - vegetto, even when uub and fat buu fused their strenght still paled in comparison to baby vegeta or ssj4 goku. vegetto could solo all the gt villians at the same time.

DBM Vegetto vs SSJ4 Goku - vegetto

Zen Buu vs Baby Vegeta - zen buu wins this easy. and if he lacks the strenght he just absorbs.

Kakarot vs Android Saga SSJ Goku - hmmm interesting one, we don't know yet how strong kakarot realy is. it might be pretty even.

feel free to think up your own matchups.

Broly (movie 8 ) vs Perfect Cell
cooler vs android 17
piccolo vs dabura

wait remember this is DBM fighters vs z and gt and movie fighters.

so make it
first special broly vs perfect cell - i would still say cell mostly because goku said cell wasnt to be compared. i take that as meaning cell was a little stronger and had better techniques designed to take on stronger opponents.

cooler vs 17 - yamcha or evil 17? lol. 17 wins with ease.

piccolo vs dabura - still dabura. i dont think piccolo could have trained that hard as to match a fpssj/ssj2.

also i dont think regular super vegito could have taken omega. the earrings arent THAT strong. and super 17 would just absorb everything.

(DBM) Vegetto vs. (GT) Goku SSj4
According to Salagir both Goku and Vegeta as SSj4 are stronger than (DBZ) Vegetto SSj
http://www.salachid.com/html/steph/#bds

By the way, read that fanfic if you haven't already. It's really funny

Bartholomew wrote:(DBM) Vegetto vs. (GT) Goku SSj4
According to Salagir both Goku and Vegeta as SSj4 are stronger than (DBZ) Vegetto SSj
http://www.salachid.com/html/steph/#bds

By the way, read that fanfic if you haven't already. It's really funny

my opinion on salagir has now dropped substansial if he realy believes that.

@ussj future trunks, you realy believe that vegetto would be as dumb as goku was in gt? to only try and shoot energy blasts?
as against omega shen ron. he would need ssj3. but the other villians ssj or mabey ssj2 would be enough.

so omega would win against DBM broly? if broly had no invincibility that is.

Super Namek vs Super Vegito (Z).

U17 Cell vs Fat Buu

Kat vs Videl

GT Pan (end of gt) vs U18 Pan

DBM Uub vs Super Buu

you want granny pan to fight her kid self?

end of gt as in the pan we see BEFORE the time jump.

Docter KillJoy wrote:

Bartholomew wrote:(DBM) Vegetto vs. (GT) Goku SSj4
According to Salagir both Goku and Vegeta as SSj4 are stronger than (DBZ) Vegetto SSj

my opinion on salagir has now dropped substansial if he realy believes that.

Actually, I think that's accurate. Somewhere along the line in GT, it was explicitly stated that Goku in base was as strong as he was in SSJ3 during the Buu Saga, and they also stated that fusion wouldn't work against Bebi Vegeta, but SSJ4 did. So SSJ4 was supposed to be crazy strong. Unfortunately, the creators started forgetting that after its first appearance and eventually had Goku defeat several opponents in base that he couldn't touch in SSJ4.

Well, we're in the DBM section. Salagir believes that SSj2 is at least 10x SSj, and SSj3 is at least 10x that, so SSj3 is 5000x base in DBM.

Base fusion is something along the lines of, in DBM cannon as explained, is (A+B)* somewhere between 1200-2000x.

So, SSj Vegeto is between 120,000-200,000x base Goku.

If we follow the general progression line (And, using GT logic, SSj Ozaru > SSj3, so we'll use it as a step)

SSj: 50x
SSj2: 500x
SSj3: 5000x
SSOj: 50000x
ASj: 500000x

So...between Salagir logic and DBGT logic, it fills in right, even if SSj4 isn't a full step over SSOj. Of course, his little joke comic takes it some steps further...

SSj fusion: 200,000x
SSj2 Fusion: 2,000,000x
SSj3 Fusion: 20,000,000x
SS0j Fusion: 200,000,000x
ASj4 Fusion: 2,000,000,000x
ASSj Fusion: 20,000,000,000x
ASSj2 Fusion: 200,000,000,000x
ASSj3 Fusion;2,000,000,000,000x


Yeah...beyond silly. XD

next hypothetic fights anyone?

Ghost busters vs Soul Reapers?

my opinion on salagir has now dropped substansial if he realy believes that.

As Leon said, you must remember that it's more a joke about GT than a guide to what Salgir thinks of DB, DBZ and DBM powerlevels

Why does everyone care about power levels so much? It's not even fun to discuss IMO, it's just maths!

Anyway, next fight, uh...

Base Kakarotto vs 2 Meta-Coolers.

is that a joke? unless kakarot is at least a ussj, metal coolers rapestomp.

a single metal cooler owned both android saga goku and vegeta at the same time.

not to forget they constantly upgrade themselves.

DBM SSJ3 Vegetto vs. End of GT Goku

Should be pretty obvious here due to GT's bs.

Are we using GT transformation rules, or DBM?

Hm. Let's see.

Goku base = SSj3 Goku from Buu saga in GT, from what I understand.

Vegeto base = Approximately SSj3 Goku at the time of Buu saga.
DBM uses limited growth, so even 20 years later, Vegeto probably isn't even 2x that, but we'll call it that for sake of argument.

SSj3 Goku from Buu saga = 1

Base Goku: 1
SSj Goku: 50
SSj2 Goku: 500
SSj3 Goku: 5,000
SSjO Goku: 50,000
SSj4 Goku: 500,000

Base Vegeto: 2
SSj Vegeto: 100
SSj2 Vegeto: 1000
SSj3 Vegeto: 10,000

Goku smashes him. GTs ridiculously high power levels blows DBMs slower growth rate out of the water. Combined with Goku having access to a form 2 tiers up....yeah.

is that a joke? unless kakarot is at least a ussj, metal coolers rapestomp.

a single metal cooler owned both android saga goku and vegeta at the same time.

Okay, how about SSJ1 Kakarotto plus Raditz and Nappa from the same universe vs a single Meta-Cooler.

Meta Cooler. Raditz and Nappa are confirmed to not have SSj as of now.

actually maybe they just didnt transform in time. but nappa doesnt seem confident in staying to fight at all. so i guess he doesnt. but maybe his base is crazy strong, like equal to frieza. in any case, hes not much help for kakarot. metal coolers win unless kakarots stronger than both android saga goku and vegeta.

as for vegetto vs goku, ill go with toei hax goku. he cant lose to anyone xD

No. I read the novel. They -don't- have it.

Nappa did say he has some brilliant plan to drop Frieza...meaning naturally he's weaker than him.

Raditz stated he hopes to hit SSj at the tourney, so that's something to maybe look forwards to.

i can just imagine.

"NO...why must i fall behind? my low class brother is a super saiyan. how can he be legendary when i, the older, am not? I WILL NOT SUFFER THIS! AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHH! *transforms*."

maybe nappa's plan is oozaru.

and how 'canon' is the novel compared to the comic?

dunno but its the best we have.